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The Philadelphia Inquirer

Tuesday, August 17, 1999

A Dose of Philosophy

Carlin Romano, Inquirer Book Critic


Lou Marinoff's "Plato, Not Prozac!" looks to become the bible of the "philosophical counseling" movement - which would treat people who have problems with clear thinking instead of psychotherapy.

JERSEY CITY, NJ - The moment cynical journalists hear about Lou Marinoff's professional crusade - lobbying for philosophers to practice as therapists, just like psychologists and psychiatrists - the jokes and headlines form fast.

I Shrink, Therefore I Am.

Take Two Aphorisms and Call Me in the Morning.

The Uncompensated Life Is Not Worth Living.

How many Philosophers Can You Fit on the Head of a Couch?

Marinoff knows the drill, and has the clips to prove it, but the 47-year-old philosophy professor at City College of New York doesn't mind. Compared with the hemlock that Socrates faced, or the fiery stake offered Giordano Bruno, what's a little gentle mockery?

"This is an example of mass culture's incessant drive for the lowest common denominator." Says the bearded, intense-looking Canadian native, clad in a Plato T-shirt, as he relaxed in his Jersey City apartment.

"How can we further simplify what we've already oversimplified?" Marinoff asks, his rhetorical questions dripping sarcasm. "How can we further dumb down what we've already made unintelligible by dumbing down? Can we do this with philosophy? That's the challenge!"

Fast-talking and forceful, but good-humored, Marinoff is teeing off on the simplistic reception his "philosophical counseling" movement has sometimes received in the past, and that he fears may also greet his just-published first book, Plato, Not Prozac!: Applying Philosophy to Everyday Problems (HarperCollins, $23.95), which looks likely to become the bible - or the Interpretation of Dreams - of the movement.

"When people come to see Dr Marinoff," the book's jacket copy announces, "they do not get endless discussions about their childhoods, quick prescriptions for anti-depressants, or tedious analyses of their behavior patterns. Instead, they learn how the ideas of the world's great thinkers can shed light on the way they live, from Kierkegaard's thoughts on coping with death and Kant's theory of obligation to the I Ching's guidelines on adapting to change and Aristotle's advice top pursue reason and moderation.

Indeed, Marinoff ventures into every messy corner of everyday life - relationship trauma, career frustration, family strife, doubt about life's meaning, coping with loss - while offering a five-step plan for identifying, expressing, analyzing, contextualizing and solving a problem. Case studies about "Vincent," "Doug," "Janet," and "Larry" weave their situations together with insights from wisdom traditions and enough jazzy one-liners to keep you reading for more than 50 minutes.

Philosophical counseling, in Marinoff's version, targets the future, not the past. It does not "disease-ify" every human problem, but accepts that having problems is normal. Despite the book's absolutist title, Marinoff admits as early as page 10 that "Some people may not benefit from Plato, just as others may not benefit from Prozac. Some may need Prozac first, then Plato later, or Prozac and Plato together."

"I work with people as a human being," explains Marinoff, leaning over his dining room table, "not as an encyclopedia of aphorisms, or as a database that matches your problem with some fortune cookie." He has been counseling clients (not "patients") for eight years, sometimes at $100 an hour, sometimes pro bono.

One example Marinoff likes to cite is that of a successful Wall Street businessman who came to him because the discovery that his wife was having an affair shook his fundamental beliefs about his life. Marinoff says that by careful questioning, he established that the man did not want to end his marriage, as he initially claimed, but to preserve it. Marinoff then led the man through Kant's Principles of Forgiveness, Compassion and Duty, enabling the man to see the willingness to forgive as a strength, not a weakness.

"What the media want," Marinoff says, "is for me to be waving another magic wand, to be someone who says, 'Plato! You feel better now?' That's nonsense."

Marinoff is media savvy enough to know that his book's catchy title bears some of the blame. Good Reasoning, Not Prozac just isn't as snappy. But if "philosophical counseling" takes off in America on the Heels of Marinoff's well-promoted tome, it may be because an idea whose time has come, and a Woody Allenish philosopher with a jaunty, colloquial style, somehow found each other.

Philosophical counseling, Marinoff acknowledges, was pioneered by philosopher Gerd Achenbach in Germany in the early '80s. Achenbach urged personal counseling that drew on insights developed in philosophical dialogue. Opposed to dogmatic psychological theories, Achenbach envisioned what freewheeling "dialogic dance" between participants that would produce self-understanding.

Achenbach's ideas caught on in the Netherlands, Israel, Canada and other countries, where hundreds of philosophical practitioners now operate. Organizations formed, literature grew, Web sites appeared.

Marinoff entered the scene in the early '90s. Raised in Montreal, where he did a first degree in mathematical physics at Concordia University, he'd spent much of his 20s questing - as a poet, classical guitarist and "Dharma bum" - before settling down at age 20 to study philosophy of science at the University College, London.

In 1991, with a doctorate in academically respectable "decision theory," he moved to Vancouver to take a part-time position at the University of British Columbia's Centre for the Applied Ethics.

"Every week," Marinoff explains, "one of us was on radio or TV or quoted in the newspaper. All of a sudden, People started coming to us or even walking in off the street and demanding to see a philosopher... I developed protocols. I started seeing people."

Marinoff found that many former patients of psychiatrists of psychologist considered them dogmatic, controlling, condescending, and/or simply unhelpful, and wanted to try something new. Then an em-mail from Israeli philosopher Ran Lahav led to Marinoff's contributing an article to the leading academic book on the subject - Essays on Philosophical Counseling (1995), which Lahav co-edited.

Marinoff and Lahav followed in the footsteo9ps of earlier intellectual movements and next organized an international conference of their peers at the University of British Columbia in 1994. The Third International Conference on Philosophical Practice, in midtown Manhattan two years ago, proved a watershed event. A splashy article in the New York Observer triggered a sheaf of articles on Marinoff and company, as well as the book contract that became Plato, Not Prozac!

In the United States, two main organizations now define the field. The American Society for Philosophy, Counseling, and Psychotherapy conducts academic meetings. The more recent American Philosophical Practitioners Association (APPA), cofounded by Marinoff in march 1998 is an activist trade group pushing for the national licensing of philosophical practitioners.

Already, it has some support. In New York state, Assemblyman Ruben Diaz Jr., a South Bronx Democrat who believes lower-income constituents should have as much access to philosophical therapy as wealthier clients, has introduced a bill that will enable philosophical therapists to be paid by third-party insurers such as HMOs. Responses from the psychotherapeutic establishment have generally been severe.

The New York Health Plan Association, the industry's trade group in that state, mocked the Diaz proposal as an "I think, therefore I bill" plan. Dorothy Cantor, former president of the American Psychological Association, charged that philosophers can't handle something as delicate as a person's mental health," and "totally ignore the role of the unconscious." Herbert Sacks, former president of the American Psychiatric Association, accused Marinoff of "practicing medicine without a license."

If the "philosophical counseling" movement heads toward this area - no legislative initiatives exist here yet - indications are it will receive an equally frosty reception.

"I think it's a big joke," says psychiatrist Michael Miller, 39, who practices with the Psychiatric Physicians Association at 1525 Locust St. "People who want to talk to philosophers are misguided."

While Miller concedes that individual philosophers might make good therapists in limited situations, the idea of their supplanting trained medical personnel in evaluating people who might have serious mental illness outrages him.

"The intellectual tradition of philosophy has nothing to do with real world problem solving," says Miller. "They're the least qualified people to do that. They have no clinical experience. Even psychologists, in my opinion, are not qualified to handle most patients that I see."

Miller thinks the Pennsylvania Psychiatric Society would oppose licensing or accreditation of philosophical practitioners if it became an issue here. "If they get paid, good for them," Miller says. "Anyone who goes to them is a fool.... In my estimation, any doctor who sends a patient to a philosopher deserves to lose his license."

Marinoff says he's used to hostility from established psychotherapists. "They try to scare people," he says. "They always say, 'Oh, but they're not trained. What if a person is suicidal?'"

"Do you think people are so damn stupid," Marinoff asks, "or inappropriately equipped by evolution, that when a crazy person gets on a subway, a bunch of untrained people - not clinical psychologists - don't know it? How trained do you have to be to recognize someone who's dangerous? It's nonsense."

Psychiatrists and psychologists, Marinoff adds, have little to brag about concerning ability to predict behavior. " If only they could predict who the serial killers are, we wouldn't have them," Marinoff gibes. "Don't even get me started."

Marinoff says his voicemail and e-mail "overflow" when the psychotherapists attack him. "They drive clients to us because people can see its hubris."

In any case, Marinoff reiterates, while philosophical counselors disagree among themselves on a number of subjects - the appropriateness of fees, for instance, or government licensing - they aren't generally as dismissive of established therapists as vice versa, and he thinks many of the latter misunderstand his movement. One of the philosophical practitioner's first tasks, Marinoff emphasizes, is to establish whether a client might have a biologically based problem and be better served by a psychiatrist. Philosophical counseling, Marinoff like to say, is "therapy for the sane," for "rational autonomous beings" who "don't need to be patronized."

For now, Marinoff is savoring the unexpectedly large crowd that showed up the other night at Barnes & Noble's Chelsea superstore in Manhattan for his book's national launch. It resonated to Marinoff's one-liners ("The idea that every personal problem is a mental illness is itself a mental illness!" and got off some of its own ("Have you heard about the sequel?" a retiree asked a reporter. "Voltaire, Not Viagra!")

And no matter where you stand on the issues, Marinoff plainly has his enemies stymied on one point.

He's around in August.


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